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with you to try and ask or at least talk about behavior. so of course families have to hold on because most people don't have a loving family we want everybody to have and that's why you need other steps to take as well. what i'm saying is it's not good enough for politicians to say families, we'll let them get on with it and schools we'll let them get on with it and we'll talk about the other things we do in parliament about foreign affairs and defense. we've got to roll up our sleeves and get involved in these arguments or otherwise too maybe people will fall through the net in our society. let's have the next one. >> the more you undermine the families that are troubled and the more that they're going to feel they can fact troubled so the more you boost their self-esteem is running slightly good, the more they're going to feel they camake the effort to become good. >> i think that's right. what we're trying to do with these interventions into families is not break them up and, you know, just criticize
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them, what you're trying to do is get in there and work out what the problems are. emma harrison who is involved in this work, one of the things she says is that in some families you find there's just no tradition of actually sitting around and eating together and talking about problems. everything is just everything is juseverything is just on the go, in front of the tele. you never talk aboutng - pc1blems with y t live their lives in a different way where they confront problems and deal with them. and you can't really expect the hard-pressed social worker who has masses of problems about children that might need tbe taken into care because of child abuse, it's quite difficult for social workers that are currently set up to have the time to really spend with a family and actually work out how could you deal with things better, how could you help spend time together, how could you deal with your problems together? so what we find is a lot of these families have masses of
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contact with the state they've got the g.p. over here the social worker there they've got the child a lots of contact but no one is spending time trying to help rearrange things so that they can deal with their problems. and this is a different way to think about it. it's actuall quite -- it's what old-fashioned social rkers used to do a bit more of when there was less paperwork and form filling and less bureaucracy they could spend more time with the family. we've got to do th and i've been very inspired by what i heard about in swinden and elsewhere and where they're spending time with filies. they're reinforcing success. in every family there's brilliant things happening and it's about finding those things and applying what work there is elsewhere. it's patient and hard work but has got to be done if we're dealing with these problems. the guy with the reflector shades. >> you were talking about like, going to hop schools but how can you go to the top schools if you can't afford to go to the top schools?
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>> absolutely right. the problem in our country for too long is we haven't had good enough schools in the state sector and one of the things this government is changing is building on something the last government did is saying actually, just because it's a poor neighborhood and poor community it shouldn't have a really great sta sool. we're lucky here, we've got some very good schools here in witney and west oxfordhire, they could be better. but you go to the incities in our country that don have any good schools and that should not be the case. what the academy program is about is getting more sponsor into those schools putting more money in the schools putting head teachers in those schools and if you have a great idea for running a new school, you should set that up in the state sector, not the private sector, and if you can attract the peoples, you get the money. and what i've seen as the opposition and the prime minister, a lot of our schools in our country and inner city areas that actually get better
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results than some of the schools right here in relatively wealthy and well off west oxfordhire and it can be done but needs real rocket boosters under it to make sure we're getting those good schools in every part of our country and shouldn't depend on being able to go private and spend the money to get better education for your children. there should be really good education within the state sector that is as good and competitive and informing and education in the private sector, as best there is but we need a lot more oft. let's have one more question. gentleman over here. >> mike alexander. you talked about the social problems. up front one of the problems seems to me to be that the police did not go about the job that i would have wanted them to do in an effective way to nip it in the bud. i do hope something can be done about that prime minister. >> it's a very fair question. it was discussed a lot in the
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house of commons and my response was to say that i think when it first started there weren't enough police on the strts quickly enough and the police tactics initially didn't work. i said that because that's what police officers from the very top of the mass and other forces and other officers told me. and i think that is right. where i think we absolutely have to be fair to the police is that they are doing an impossibly difficult job. they are suddenly confronting a mob and they don't initially know what exactly that mob is doing, is it a political protest, is it a riot, is it anger with the police, is it looting stores, is it criminality. it's easy for everyone tolles say it's obviously what you have to do you must do this d do that. for the police they're there on the front line and having to adopt and -- ada and change their tactics as it's happening. that's what they did and did it successfully and did it with the political support and backing of the government through the cobra emergency committee.
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there will be lessons to learn and i'm determined we will learn them through reviews and inquiries and the rest of it but we have to not be unfair to the police who do a good job in our behave and can't be said too often enough the officers on the front line, and i've met many of them in the last week with my trips around, that they showed extraordinary bravery. we ask the every day to go out on the front line and put themselves between us and proble and to risk their lives. of course lessons have to be learned, it didn't get all get right as soon as it should have done and police will understand that and of course lessons will be learned in affect the way you suggest. i thank you all for coming. can i thank base 33 for hosting me. it's lovely to be back with you. and if you didn't have a chance, maybe we could have more questions downstairs but i tried to answer as many as i can. thank you very much indeed. thank you. [applause]
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>> british opposition leader ed miliband criticized the prime minister's reaction to the riots. speaking to those >> a inquiry. he also talked about the need for a dialogue about economic issues for the youth and the issue of inequality. his remarks are about 23 minutes. >> laura thank you very much.
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can i say what a privilege it is and pleasure to be back at my old school. and i want to pay tribute to all the young people, the fantastic young people and also fantastic teachers, some of who taught me like nicky hayden who we have with us today. it brings back great memories to be here, and i'm delighted that i can be. haverstock inspired me with great teaching and gave me a great education and at haverstock, i grew up with people of all walks of life. there's no substitute for that ed cailings and that -- that education and that experience. and i wouldn't be standing here today as leader of the labor party if it wasn't for the education, the values that haverstock taught me. everyone here will have a personal story about last week's riots and the feelings we had about what happened.
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mine is a week ago near the route i walked to school for seven years on short farm road as i just saw the bike shop and other places along short farm and adelaide road, there was rioting, windows were smashed and stuff was taken. no part of london and no major english city seemed immune or safe from what happened. this week, though, i did what politicians don't do enough the rest of the time. i went out on to the streets and listened to people who came up to me and talked to me about their experiences and their feelings about what had happened. people told me their stories their personal, powerful stories. i just want to start by bearing witness to them today. because it is only with the voices of people that we can begin to understand and start to solve the problems we face as a society. on tuesday i was in peckham 12
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hours after the looting had finished and heard from a young woman who made her way from the university and who had been walking home that previous night and feared for her safety and said something's got to be done about this. i also heard from an old man who said well, the problem is that government and politicians have deserted our young people. on wednesday i saw the fury of people in manchester about what happened in terms of the rioting. i also saw the spirit of a thousand people who had come out that morning to show the spirit of manchester was something else and they'd come out and cleaned up the streets of manchester, cleaned up after the rioting and looting. on friday i witnessed a whole range of emotions when i went to tottenham. because that is a community that has done so much to build its reputation since the riots happened in 1985. and there people were saying to me look, our worry is the
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world is going to turn its back on us after what happened in tottenham. what's going to happen to the reputation of tottenham. and i met people like allen moore, a jeweler, and i went to see what was left of his shop. he spent 35 years building up his business. and you know all that was left was the safety deposit box standing emits rubble. and statement i visited the ledger center in tottenham and that was an inspiring site because actually it was about people volunteers coming out to say we're going to help people who need to rebuild young people who represent the vast majority of young people right up and down this country law-abiding young people and politicians need to say that because we don't say it enough. saturday i heard from people from hackney shopkeepers who had seen their businesses atacked and people searching
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for answers. so i've seen and heard as i'm sure you all have done, anger aggressive and fear but also seen -- grief and fear but also seen home and determination as well. but also as laura said, i've heard nothing but condemnation for what happened, no excuses, no justification because nothing excuses and nothing can justify and that's why it's right tough punishments are being handed out. but i've heard, and you must have heard as well something else. a deep desire to understand a deep need to explain what happened. and what we first said 20 years ago, we need to be tough on crime and tough on the causes of crime that speaks to what people have been saying to me on the streets too. everywhere i've been, people are discussing the same measures, why did this happen? what does it say about our country? what can be done now to prevent it happening again? >> there's an easy and
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predictable past for politicians. it might even be the more popular path in the short term, and yet i heard some people demand it on the streets. it says the riots are criminality, pure and simple and it stops there. it says that to explain is to excuse. if others wish to tread this path, that is a matter for them. but not the one for me. and i'll tell you why, because it's not strength, it is an absolute abdication of responsibility to the victims our communities and the country. but if we follow that approach, we run the risk of disturbances happening again. in fact, it is bill bratton the former police commissioner who said you cannot arrest your way out of this problem. and there's another path simply to blame others, blame the parents blame the so-called underclass, blame the police. we've certainly seen a lot of that in the last few days
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haven't we? our police force already being undermined by cuts in officers and an unseemly attempt by government to take credit for operational decisions that went right and blame the police for those that didn't work out. so wrong. and the approach of blaming others, so simple and yet so simplistic. instant and simple judgments in response to these sorts of events bring bad solutions. of course the public says we want quick action. but a new policy a day knee-jerk gimmicks not thought through, they won't serve the problem. and let's be honest about the politician's instinct in this, a appointed new advisor we allow your old prejudices but that won't meet the public's demand for lasting solutions. we've heard it all in the last few days, water cannons supercops, a daily knock at the door for gangs and today more
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gimmicks. a prime minister who used to say the answer was to hug a hoody now says the answer to reform health and safety laws. a crisis like this tells something about our political leaders. day by day the prime minister has revealed himself to be reaching for shallow and superficial answers, not the lasting solutions the country needs, that comes from the wisdom and insight of our communities. the rule to restore order must be followed by real change but to do that we must answer the most basic questions. why are there people who think it's ok to loot and vandalize in their own neighborhoods, who seem to hold no loyalty to their communities, who think they have everything to gain and nothing to lose from doing things like this? the small minority who did this are not one race, one age group, one community. they are british people from
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brixton to gloucester, croiton to manchester,. and to answer what has happened, i say this, we have to state the most inconvenient truth of all. yes, people are responsible for their actions. but we all bear a share of responsibility for the society we create. governments, labor and conservative, powerful elites in politics, business and in the media. and all of us, me and you as well. only by starting with this truth can we get to the honest answers our country deserves. i'm here today at haverstock because the national conversation we need must start with the communities affected. in every place i've been to, there is the knowledge to solve these problems and the overwhelming desire to be heard. but i have also heard the suspicion, perhaps legitimate suspicion, that this will be
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another example of politicians arriving at the scene of trouble and then melting away when the world moves on. people have seen the way my profession works before and are underably cynical. can we be different this time? that is the challenge for political leaders. only if we give people who have been affected by this the chance for their voice and views to be heard. after every major disturbance from brixton to olden we've had in our history we had a commission to look at the causes. we must have this one as well. a genuine, national conversation, not a group of m.p.'s focused on policing and criminal justice as the government proposes, not a review of government policy conducted by civil servants, not a standard judicial inquiry made up of elites such as we're having over phone hacking. we need an answer which comes from people themselves that listens to the victims, that build on their own experiences. if the prime minister wants to
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know the solutions he should come to these communities and have the humility to listen and should have nothing to fear from the truth. and the people leading this commission of inquiry must include those young people we talked about those people with experience of being in gangs, people from across the community and hearings shouldn't happen in white hall or in the palace of westminister, by the areas which experience the riots and those that did not. now, what are the issues that this national conversation needs to discuss? let me today, and i'm looking forward to your questions about this, let me put some issues on the table. let's start by asking the questions of what values we saw from the looters and rioters. greed, selfishness and immorality. above all gross irresponsibility. and the irresponsibility is not just confined to those who took part in the riots. we note there are big issues of personal responsibility, too. i was appalled to hear about
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the parents who didn't turn up to court when their 14-year-old was charged with looting. somebody i met in hackney on saturday said to me, angry about parents not taking responsibility, when the riots began, i made sure my kids were at home. why weren't other parents doing that? the reality though, the truth behind this is not simply p. some people say it's all about family breakdown. but there are single parents across this country the vast jofert them doing an absolutely brill -- vast majority them doing a absolutely brilliant job. there are rich families unable to control their kids and the vast majority of poor families who do control their kids. we must avoid putting out the old stereotypes and president clintons in this debate that suit one party or another. and we need to ask deeper questions about what cause this
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is irresponsibility. about why some parents are not teaching their children the difference between right and wrong, not setting boundaries. i've heard on the streets a lot of times let me be honest about this people saying to me, you can't tell your children off anymore. who is telling parents they can't tell off their children anymore? certainly not me. we should ask why the young people don't have the role models that can put them in the right path in life. and we need to understand something we don't tend to talk about, the linth between the problems in our society and the economy we have in britain. we need to ask what we can do about an economy where children don't see enough of their parents because they're working 50 60, 70 hours a week, during not just one job or two jobs or three jobs and not there when their kids get home, not there in the evening. and the solution won't be simple either. one of the most important things government can do is back families up with programs
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like family intervention partnerships family nerve partnerships, proper support to help parents do their duty. but as we talk about what happened in the riots we've got to be honest with ourselves. children's ideas of right or wrong don't just come from their parents. and we can't honestly say that the greed, selfishness and irresponsibility we saw is confined to the looters or even to their parents. it's not the first time, after all, we've seen this kind of me first, take what you can culture. the bankers who took millions while destroying people's savings, greedy, selfish and immoral. the m.p.'s who fiddled their expenses greedy, selfish and immoral. the people who hacked phones to get stories at the expense of poor victims greedy, selfish and immoral. people who talk about the sick behavior of those without power should stop talking about the
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sick behavior of those with power as well. let's not pretend that the crisis and values in our society is confined to a minority only at the bottom. we see the morality of millions of hard-working people under siege at the top as well. let's talk about what that does to our culture. too often we've sent a message from the top to the bottom of britons 's -- britain's society, anything goes you're in it for yourself, as long as you can get away with it, who cares? we hear lots of talk now about role models for communities but what role model has really been provided by the elites in britain in the last few decades? so no, the values crisis is not confined to a so-called underclass in britain. our whole country is held back by irresponsibility wherever it is found. it can only be solved by addressing the issues right across our society from bonuses to benefits. so the culture of our society
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does matter. and just as those on the left who dismiss arguments about culture are wrong so are those on the right who dismiss the importance of opportunity and hope. it's true, as some people say the people from comfortable background took part in the riots. a lack of opportunity cannot explain all of what happened. but come on, just because it can't explain everything it doesn't mean it can't explain anything. this is where a leader of the opposition needs to speak frankly. of course, not everyone who grows newspaper a deprived neighborhood turns to crime. just as not everyone who grows up in a rich neighborhood stays on the straight and narrow. individuals are responsible for their actions. and every individual has the choice between doing right and doing wrong. but there are connections between circumstances and behavior. these aren't actually my words. they're the words of david cameron in a speech five years
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ago, five years ago he fought both -- thought both culture and deprivation mattered but last thursday he said in the house of commons it's not about poverty but about culture and he repeated it again today. i have to say i don't understand why he's changed his mind, why he's accepted a false choice between culture and opportunity and maybe because it isn't his view of the world has changed but his view of what would make him popular has changed. i am clear both culture and opportunity matter, to explain is not to excuse. and if we refuse to explain what has happened, we will condemn ourselfs to repeat it. opportunity matters because far too many young people in our country who don't have the hope of a better future, who don't feel they have proper chances in life, a state in society. of course the vast majority of young people were not rioting and do the right thing. but their decision to do the right thing does not an -- absolve us of our
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responsibility to dot right thing by them and give them a hope of a better future. and in the battle to give our hope to young people we've got to be honest with the minority we are losing to the gangs that are in the cities. and we have to understand the deep nature of this choice that young people are faced with. i heard it everywhere i've been in the last week, best put in brixton on friday. some kids see the choice and say wrongly the gang offers them money protection, and status. and some people believe, some young people believe there isn't that choice available to them from another route. just as we need tough action against gangs, we need to show young people there is another way. and that is harder when support has been taken away. i'm more interested in blaming one government or one policy or even defending one government. i'm proud of what the labor government did to advance young
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people's chances, the new deal, minimum wage rebuilding our schools. these changes advance the cause of young people. higher school standards narrowing the gap in educational achievement, getting more people in universities, building into the future. but we didn't do everything right and each everyone we should have done. let's debate as a country. in the after math of what happened, how we build that better future for young people because it is part of the answer. issues like education and skills, services and jobs are important for diversing people away from gangs and going down the wrong path. and it does matter, it does matter people think there is a grave risk to what i call the promise of britain, that each generation can do better than the last. that's what the prime minister used to say, too. and i hope he will say it again. and look, if i'm wrong, i that hope and opportunity are irrelevant, then let us have the commission of inquiry reach
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that conclusion. let us not be scared of seeking an explanation and hearing the answers. let's be brave enough to find the truth. and it isn't simply that young people find it hard to get on. it's about something else as well. something that the last labor government didn't talk about enough, something this government won't talk about enough, and that is unequal society that we live in. it is about the gap between what young people can expect and what seems available to others. they see a society glorifying those who make millions while they struggle to keep up. they see the cult of celebrity replacing the ethic of hard work. these are the parallel lives we have in britain today. the parallel lives of those who have so much and those who feel they have no stake in our society. we all want the chance to get on. but what if the chance to do that seems small and the rewards for success seem distant? in the rungs on the ladder are
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so far apart you feel you can't possibly aspire to climb up, if we give the impression that what we value that what we exalt are things out of reach for so many people, it leads to frustration, never an excuse, never a justification, but a part of the explanation. a stake in society requires a ladder you can climb a stake demands the things you value be within reach. so i hope as part of the national conversation that we need, we look at these deeper issues of inequality which scar our country. what i know is this the most important thing for now is that we do not let these seven days in august which shook our nation and then our nation forgot. that's why our national conversation is so important. reaching across the gaps in our society between the parallel lives i talked about. so i urge the prime minister to
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establish this commission of inquiry without gay. -- without delay. if he does not do it in the coming days, i will do it myself. it is right for the victims it is right for the countries and it is right to build the society we need. in recent years we've seen three great crisis in our national institution banking parliament and the press and now we've seen the crisis affecting our great cities. in each case, an irresponsible minority let down the majority of good, decent people. each crisis showed a wider problem. each crisis showed a country in need of deep-rooted change. but this crisis showed something else. our strength as a country to come together and respond. the people who came together to sweep our streets show how a country can unite. the people who reclaimed our streets show the true character of britain. and it is that spirit, that spirit of young people at
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haverstock, the spirit of great teaching at haverstock that can help us build our future together. it's that spirit which national conversation must draw on and build for the future. and it is that spirit that gives me hope for the future. thank youthank you very
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>> welcomed president will, speaker of the german parliament chancellor merkel, governing mayor states secretary neumann ladies and gentlemen, members of the parliament ladies and gentlemen, i would like to welcome you here to the memorial. your presence the importance of
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this date for european history you are supporting the work of all associations. the memorial the wall of berlin is also a side of the individual grief. at the same time, it is symbolic for our collective memory. it is a former symbol of the division of europe into a free part and a dictatorial parts.
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how you can only guess the extent of the suffering related to the wall. based on stage or her -- a stage orders torn apart as the young border soldier tried to escape in underground tunnels, they perished. they would make sure they would never be forgotten. more than 2000 inhabitants were evacuated by forest near houses were torn down and to the truck was -- you are actually sitting right on it. the strip even cost cemeteries and eventually the chapel of
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conciliation was destroyed. as well as a certainty as these important goods are not self evident. a is also a site to that gives us hope that freedom is possible even in this world. it helped us plan and build this unusual room memorial, especially over the past two and a half years. without your support we would not have succeeded.
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my wonderful collaborators, i like to thank them for your dedication to this unique project. i love of the floor to the governing mayor. and >> representatives of the constitutional [unintelligible] honorable citizens of berlin, representatives of the associations of the victims ladies and gentlemen today we
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are commemorating the saddest day in the most recent history of berlin. it has become the foremost symbol of the tragedy of the division. after august 13, 1961, nothing was the same again. the construction of the wall hit us to the court. we were helpless watching the division of our city, we were shocked and we were desperate. we tried to escape to the west. there are still overwhelming today. they are telling us some of the need and the desire to want to be free.
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my personal comment is that this was a better experience. it is an impetus for me to combat totalitarian thinking and act in if we are presented with it. 128 individuals indicted in between -- because it was a dream of freedom only and it was terminated because they were shot at by the east german border police on august 13, 1961. they lost its people. in this way they took away the life and perspectives of so many
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different people. it was a bankruptcy declaration of a system that people try to escape from. we also remember all those on the side of horror where they were treated unjustly. they are remembering the dedication of so many that maintained their faces into the future. we are also thinking of his successors as governing mayor and actually achieve for all of us, it reminds us of everyone
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that supported us worldwide. they encouraged us to persevere. we are grateful to all those that are members of the civil rights movement. it was housed by the protestant church. the venom of the european free the movement, chuckles slovakia, their desire to overcome dictatorial as them. they opened the past for us to reach freedom and we are particularly grateful of one of our honorary citizens.
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that was about 22 years ago berlin has changed very quickly. whatever we achieved, we must be very respectful -- it was not a state based on the rule of law. it is frightening that today
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the sed -- there is no justification for the violation of rights. here at the street we are at the focal point of 1961. we are adding an additional memorial. we have more than 500,000 visitors, and there is an
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increasing lack of knowledge. the time has come that this important era of the most recent history should be taught more to schoolchildren. and parents need to discuss their memories and we need to talk to contemporaries that are still among us. one day after the construction of the road, we will never forget this. freedom and democracy. it must be preserved and making
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sure that it does not reoccur. gosh ladies and gentlemen it was a sunday morning they heard on the radio that a wall was being built and they were very fearful.
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with her parents, her husband remains in the heart of berlin and the family has been torn apart. both of them were arrested coming through an underground tunnel. both were arrested and the sun was taken over by the state. the parents did not know -- and they were finally given permission to leave, it was 12 years later after they left the apartment.
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there is heyday in the history there was a time where there were varying different systems of government and germany was divided right on the border between and the failure of a
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dictatorial regime. the state-run -- we remember crimes that were subtle but also very brash. some were cut in half, hopes
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were lost, lives were destroyed. time and again 136 individuals indicted, according to my knowledge, because nobody knows the real number. the first victim was on august 22 1961. she wanted to escape from her apartment. she was living on the third floor. she threw mattresses and bedding on the ground to have a softer landing. she died one day before her fifty ninth birthday. today's later, the next a victim
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was an apprentice taylor. he tried to find a gap between harbor and the railroad station. he swam through the canal and then he was shot in the head and killed. peter, also an apprentice on august 17, he cried out for help. but he bled to death. i also would like to remind you of chris he was discovered a, a shot, and was completely paralyzed. then he was killed by a shot to
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the head. i am very grateful that his mother and his sister, they have joined us. we express our great regret to all of the victims of the wall. libau before all of those killed at the wall, and the hundreds of the individuals that were also killed at the border dividing germany and we will observe a minute of silence, we want to remember them in particular.
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and there are -- but we are grateful for all of those that made that possible there. many escaped. they swam across the baltic sea and it was literally built against its own people. it was an expression of the fear of the east german people. many thought that nothing will ever change.
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once again freedom is invincible. the wall will be able to resist the will to freedom and the violence and oppression repression cannot resist the freedom of so many. on the evening of august 13, they already called out to the citizens no one could ever not retain any one in slavery. the citizens during the days of revolution in 1989 were heroically courageous. the determination of the security forces was unquestionable. but the love of freedom and the individuals triumphed.
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this love remained. there were many individuals that wanted freedom. they dared to risk their lives to escape. there were many individuals that got together in small circles discussing changes. it protected them and allowed them to pray for freedom. let me remind you of this set a time when many think that religion is something of a private nature. time and again there were revolutions against repression and tanks that came and destroyed that. in 1953, there was a revolution. in czechoslovakia in 1980 and
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1981 we observed it in poland, our immediate neighbors. part of the truth is that too many of excepted the division and accepted the wall. the germans and were faced with the alternative to adjust for be imprisoned wherever it was possible individuals withdrew into their private lives, who lives that were often very impressive under the conditions of a criminal state. what was shameful was an increase in in difference in west germany. and there was an intellectual and personal complacency the injustices committed on the left was more acceptable from the right. it was more of a focus and then the wall, many became
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indifferent to the fate of millions of germans on the other side of hardwiring. some demanded that the mandate of unification be deleted for the constitution and for many politicians, the german question had been closed and the subject of a single nation became the cause of many. whenever august 13 was commemorated few were individuals listened and the media turned away. who ever said there is some justice here that individual actually was not recognized and called an intruder, someone that was forever wedded to yesterday.
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the government owes much to the citizens for their effort in order to reestablish freedom and have germany reunited. we are one people. [applause] gorbachev really was the one that began the opening. there were changes there were the churches in hungary and everyone cooperated to bring down the division of the continent and demonstrate what can happen one division assembles with others and to have fought for freedom and achieve freedom in our country that is the gift that the east germans gave us. he and justice of the wall still
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appeals to all of us. those of us the fight for freedom, democracy and human rights. had means we have the obligation to make sure that history will not repeat itself. we have to remember and will have to enlightened and teach at a site such as this. that represents the efforts of some many museums victims associations and the other is very committed to this memorial. such dedication was absolutely necessary because on the other side of the wall, it was a totalitarian states. many germans forget that. we have to make sure that history is not falsified and ignorance is prevented. i want to thank all of the teachers of very committed in this direction.
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please use the opportunity to educate your students when you come to a site such as this. i am convinced it is just not possible. we have never had an east german classic visiting the memorial that memorializes the victims of the wall. the state was dictatorial and to emphasize this the citizens there did not live a worthwhile life. there was injustice committed before 1945, and the suffering was continued and transferred to the east germans that also live in the totalitarian state. their desire to become free is very impressive, especially when you look individual biographees. millions remained morally
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strong and accomplished very much in cooperation with neighbors and friends. we need to talk about our recent history and we need to ask if the perpetrators were adequately punished. many victims say no, they are very bitter about this. what we wanted was justice though what we received was the rule of law. those that suffered please let me say to you please try to recognize the value of the sentence because it does how have value. just to only flesh when a punishable act was committed and when there was a law that declared that to be punishable. in the states under the rule of law, we have to look at the perpetrator as a victim.
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and not everything that is morally wrong can decriminalized. after 1990, the statutes of limitations were extended, and under that law penalties and punishment was needed. this was a signal to the entire world the crimes committed against human rights have to be punished. the constitutional state is not necessarily always just. but it is a major achievement of civilization. we should be proud of our constitution of the rule of law. we should wonder what can we learned from the wall had what can we transfer to our future? we now are beginning to talk
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about walls in the mind and walls in the heart. i would like to refrain from even addressing that fortifying that because it really means minimizing the horror of law. we have problems today but it is not close to the suffering that we are memorializing today. we can resolve these problems because we have the freedom to act, and that is what matters. our future is up to us, and democracy, of course. it takes effort, it takes energy. but this piece of history was written by human beings. the wall did not fall, it was toppled. we can make changes, and we are working towards more freedom.
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today, that means that everyone has the opportunity to self- actualized. he must be integrated and more successfully. everyone must be given more opportunities to strive to develop themselves. that is a demand of justice it continues to be something that east germans are asking for. we have individuals of different origins that say to us, it is a good country. we're seeing opportunities here. and win individuals say that, we are successful in terms of integration and education. it is based on the principle of solidarity and should meet acceptance. it is the attitude of citizens themselves that matters.
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this is a national community and we should make it our own even more. we are responsible for our common cause whether as volunteers, whether it is the new army, or whether we are simply a human being helping another one. remember in the wall of the as exceeded the lives reminds us how important it is to be free and tolerate something that is different even when it requires energy. the ability to change will reward those who are not willing to change. it requires courage, of course. we have no reason to be afraid of it. we germans have been courageous and since 1945 we rebuilt of
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the country millions of displaced individuals and refugees weren't integrated the successfully. we took down the regime, and we have achieved his to make this country a joint project. wherever someone comes from is increasingly important especially among the younger generation. german reunification was surprisingly successful. they see that more clearly than we do ourselves. and i hear that germany is a fantastic country citizens are still contributing to unity of some a new initiatives taken specially on the part of eastern germans. we are facing worldwide
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competition and we survived and the economic crisis better than other countries. we have shown that we are courageous how to change things and we will continue to do that. our society is growing older. there are death but we have to limit them to future generations. unity, writes, law, and freedom. those are the terms of our national anthem in have been for 187 years. will only achieve this over the past 20 years. it is my desire that being a free and living under the rule of law we truly appreciate that and a united germany continues to develop and flourish has inscribed in the national anthem embedded in a strong,
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unified europe that will continuously serve freedom as the preamble of our constitution demands. to appreciate and to protect freedom. it is something that we need to do, and it is something that we have achieved here in germany. [applause] in 1988, i was imprisoned by the
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state police in berlin. there was a crying need young architectural student and that had tried to flee. she had just been investigated. together with the couple and her young son, she tried to flee. there was a two-kilometer underground concrete tunnel for the river. the flight plan had been transmitted to the student by telephone. he was already on the western side and maybe we think this was not very cautious, but the telephone was not a bug. and his girlfriend was called
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upon to follow him but it was very difficult to overcome the border. the architectural student approached a family that owned a car of the model because she knew this couple had enough. this was a small group that traveled and had a rubber boots and black clothes with them. the 8-year-old son was accompanying them, and he was told that there is a secret adventure to you -- before you that will be very exciting. they drove through the village in the middle of the night. the refugees parked their car around the border, and they walked across fields and violently along a forest.
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they tried to locate and the sounds of the underground river. the child was tired and they felt less adventurous. had they lost their orientation? the watch tower or the death threat could be seen in the middle of the night the enamel is difficult to find. they crawled back to the and tried a few hundred meters to the north. this would be the last attempt. you're asking me to speak louder but i am not able to hamas says the speaker. they would just go back into they would spend the night there and try again the next night. when they came back to the
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forest they heard motors, the barking of dogs, have there were stoplights. inhabitants of the village had called the border police. this is something that in the future, touched me deeply. when you're standing there, the dogs are barking and handcuffs are clicking, you are fingerprinted. that was familiar to me, i was also thinking about the inhabitants of the village. two of them called the border police, and the car was very quiet. at the same time, somebody heard it and they saw it there was not a local license plate. i tried to imagine how the individuals jumped out of their bed, half the fun, and made a call -- picked up a phone and
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made a call. i s imagine them going back to bed and expecting accolades for the denunciations. so many happen. have those have become part of the history of germany. when i was 18, i tried to flee. i was under a lot of unemotional pressure and my brother had already been committed to a penitentiary for political reasons. i was already in my cabin but one of the eastern german employees denounced me. others of us that tried to flee he will never forget the history of our flights. we remember the worst times of
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our imprisonment. remember being humiliated continuously by the guards. they could act freely in the brutally under this regime and it was reflected on their faces as well. we were transported has a group of prisoners and we were brought to the railroad station. and they were mostly men but a few women. we had been told, do not look anywhere except for at the back of the person in front of you. they were very close. some who were waiting for a train, and they looked the us as criminals. all of a sudden, we were escorted by police, a guide dog in handcuffs.
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and we walked along the tracks. people were shocked into some of them turned away. some of them tried to figure out what happened. there was a young woman leaving the at us, and she moved her hands invisibly in front of her chest. i took it with me as a bunch of flowers. i was not injured physically. i survived the flights. i had a friend to the stuck on an land mine. in 1970, was captured and shot by a special command of the secret police. he shared a cell with someone that was highly visible. they were a friend -- they were
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friends and were discovered. his friend was mowed down with guns and was able to drop to the ground. he stepped on a land mine and lost his legs. he was sentenced to five years in the penitentiary. it was a horrible system, and still, so many of them think it was a good system. we may never forget the fate of those citizens. [applause] hadi repeat, we may never forget the fates of our fellow citizens whether they were killed ha of the wall of berlin, whether they drowned in the baltics, or whether they were killed in the outer perimeter of the socialist state. i recently completed a
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documentary about her two young individuals that tried to flee across the border. they wanted to avoid being drafted into the army, and they were captured. they had already left of their hands to fade when they were killed through automatic weapons. then their dead bodies were fastened to donkeys and they were brought to a village on the border, and they were shown on the central market square in order to deter anyone that might consider or think of also wanting to flee. our thoughts do not only go to those that were injured and killed but the remaining
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siblings and parents that were repressed by the state. her children that were left behind their parents were in prison -- imprisoned. [applause] >> president, speaker of the upper chamber, speaker of the parliament chancellor, colleagues from the different parliament, ladies and gentlemen. especially here, where we formally had the wall, we can still see part of it.
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and under the immediate impression we are becoming very sad and angry at the same time, today, those that have political response ability are minimizing the impact of the political system. without any doubt it was contemptuous of the rule of law and they imprison their own people. those that had the courage not to adjust, those that were courageous enough to begin the bloodless revolution, we are grateful to them, but we are also grateful to george bush and gorbachev and the german politicians.
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we're very grateful to them. the also now have to call a spade a spade and speak the truth. there are a number of frustrating studies that were published indicating that if you were individuals who know what the gdr meant. the heart of our history is increasingly being minimized. we have to educate our young individuals so they can learn how the matter what the extremist regime is, it leads to nothing but oppression. this is a task of the individual states and the school system. they consider this a task on a national level. additional measures will be taken in order to teach
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children about recent history and including the regime. how the federal government supports a number of memorials that remind all of us about the brutality of the entire border dividing germany. we have memorial's elsewhere. we have them in the german had german museum, we also have establishments that demonstrate the injustice of the stake in different contexts. the memorial today the secret police prison, or, for example, the association for historical research. and we have the former archives
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that are being researched. what we like to see is in cooperation with the berlin to maintain this memorial. we contributed to financially -- contributed financially to realize it. two years ago we've published research about who died of the wall 136 biographies are found. 136 slides were terminated. they have a face now and their dignity has been restored that the gdr regime tried to rob them of. we memorialize this part of history and our country. we are memorializing the death
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your head and it is particularly moving for me as part of this memorial. the house of german history will be opened at the former railroad station street which is also called the palace of tears. madam chancellor, i welcome the fact that you will dedicate this especially important memorial. when we started to plan for this memorial here the association for the berlin wall gave the initiative as well as the minister of the conciliation congregation. and again contributed. i would like to cite them on behalf of the federal government. sites such as this one and press
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upon us that freedom and democracy are the highest good is that we have to continuously defend protect and preserved today and into the future. [applause] >> next, remarks by republican presidential candidate and former mexico gov. jerry johnson. after that, president obama in illinois. and the foreign minister on u.s. pakistan relations. >> for politics and public affairs, it is the c-span network available to you on television radio and on line. and on social media sites. hotch any time with the video library. and we are on the road with the
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local content of vehicles, bringing resources to local communities. it is washington your way. the c-span that works, created by cable and provided as a public service. >> republican presidential candidate and former mexico gov. jerry johnson was friday's featured speaker in washington d.c.. he talked about the cap and trade policy, and the wars in iraq and afghanistan. he described it would be his governing approach to the presidency. this is about an hour. >> good afternoon and welcome to the national press club. i am the one hundred and fourth president of the national press club. we are the leading professional journalism group with
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programming events such as this also working to foster a free press worldwide. for more information, we invite you to visit our web site www.press.org and the money through the national journalism library. on behalf of members worldwide i would like to thank our head table as well as working journals that our club members. if you hear applause, members of the general public are in attendance it is not necessarily evidence of a lack of journalistic objectivity. i would also like to welcome the c-span audience. they are featured as a weekly broadcast -- podcast on itunes. and on twitter at 3npclun --
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#npclunch. it is time to introduce our head table. a journalist presence does not imply or signify an endorsement of the speaker. we will get to that right now. stand up briefly as your name is announced. jonathan hall, a public affairs specialist mr. patrick mcgrath the former national correspondent for channel 5 in washington a member of the press club of billhook -- the board of governors. a reporter for green wire, a member of the board of governors, and kip nicely. a colleague of state government
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in new mexico. skipping over the podium our speakers' committee chair is doing a fantastic job. skip over our speaker. rachel is -- thank you so much, rachel. charles as a guest of our speaker and also with the campaign in the state of virginia. michael is a washington correspondent. ti myoung -- tim young is a contributor to the huffington post. and chris murray, good to have a fellow broadcaster here today. you can give your applause now to the head table. [applause] our guest today is candidates gary johnson, alike fellow
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candidate ron paul, he would be considered to be a libertarian and republicans clothing. our guest is for limited government a fiscal conservative that delivered hundreds of vetoes during his governorship. i understand that was part of your job is to legislate that. he says he will take a similar approach to government as president. when many americans appear to be yearning for a more effective government one that can put country above party who were with governor johnson fit into that vision? he is an outspoken advocate of legalizing marijuana, and gay- rights and keeping government out of the way of the creation of jobs. he has expressed frustration and anger that he has yet to gain
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the news coverage. he has not been invited to participate in cnn's publican debate in june or participate in the iowa straw poll. the washington times dubbed him the rodney dangerfield of this year's presidential field that he gets no respect. apologies to those of you who are too young to know who rodney dangerfield is. it is about promoting transparency in government not limiting the debate. it seems fitting that he should have the opportunity to bring his perspective to the table as we offer all of the presidential candidates this year and the president of the united states to has yet to take us up on the offer. the conservative christian group asked candidates to sign [unintelligible] stating, "in one concise document, they managed to condemn gays single-parent
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single individuals divorce is, muslims, gays in the military, women who choose to have abortions, and everyone else who doesn't fit in a norman rockwell painting." the decision to defend the new mexico border is a waste of money and he blasted rick perry for doing an impression of george bush. with his own ideas and such issues as the defense spending, medicare governor johnson acknowledges that name recognition has been an impediment. please give a warm welcome to governor johnson. [applause]

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